Dual 4input positivenand 50 ohm line drivers 14pdip 0 to 70. Discussion in electronic design started by chris carlen, jun 4, 2004. The spincore ttl line driver tm is a usbpowered device with four input channels and 8 output lines. This needs 6 volts to get 3 volts of output into 50 ohms, and will drive a highimpedance load to 6 volts, and will drive the highimpedance with little ringing using 50ohm coax since the output is now sourceterminated to 50 ohms. Resolved suggested logic buffer for driving ttl 50 ohm load. It is also possible to construct a discrete line driver circuit with only one transistor for each of the two pulse polarities this single channel single transistor tekco discrete component line driver may be one of the most elegant little line drivers ever used in a logging tool.
Choosing between line driver, open collector, and push. I am trying to create a pcb trace line from a gps receiver to a gps patch antenna. Both the input and the output are connected to lab equipment with 50 ohm bnc cables. Putting two 50 ohm connectors and a barrel in the middle of a video run might cause ghosting. For this application, since the system is polarityfree, each output of the device can be.
The 74s140 digital logic gate is specifically designed to drive 50 ohm transmission lines to valid ttl logic levels vohmin 2. This circuit is a very simple for unity gain buffer. I need high current drive and high voltage drive, as there will be 10v on the output, terminating through 100 ohms total 50 ohm output impedance, 50 ohm termination, over a short length of 50 ohm coax. It isnt good practice to make ttl inputs and outputs directly available for a user to connect anything they like. The 2n3439 is a good replacement for npn transistors, and the. It gives a 30 mhz solution, high speed pcb layout techniques, a means to test ac response, step response and distortion.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 next scroll to continue with content. The output drivers are designed for cable impedances in the range of 30 to 140 ohms. With the popularity of surplus 75 ohm aluminum hardline, knowing how to match it to a standard 50 ohm antenna or feedline is important. F charge pump capacitors and overall ruggedness for comercial applications. The closest available resistor value should be chosen. Because of this, a sinking input is required for proper operation. The device is especially useful in digital video broadcast applications. It is a modified version of the popular prl414b, with the outputs enhanced to deliver 5 v into 50. One 50 ohm connector might not cause a visible effect. If you want to make the output impedance of the source your ttl logic to be 50 ohms, it may be easiest to use a gate with an opencollector output and use a 50 ohm pullup resistor. The resistor will sufficiently limit the power to protect the output. F in the same package which in turn drive a load terminated in 50 ohms to ground. Right now, i can see the output through a probe to a oscilloscope1m input impedance. Single photon detection module for multichannel detection of weak fluorescence signals a ttl line driver ic is used to retain the shape of the pulse.
But for some reason, i have to output this signal to the receiver which has a 50ohm input impedance. Si5341 cmos output load driving 50 ohms silicon labs. If you intend to drive a 50 ohm transmission line which has the typical 50 ohm termination to ground, then other arrangement will need to be made like using a specialized 50 ohm line driver. Schottky ttl line drivers worked reliably after determining the optimal resistive termination. So you would expect your ni box to produce pulses on the order of 1. A cmos inverter with ttl compatible inputs drives 5 parallel connected cmos inverters u101.
Im not sure if this simple circuit will work to 25mhz. The basic specs are 05v into 50 ohms with risefall times on the order of but not much greater than 20 ns. May 27, 2005 pulse research lab introduces new 4channel line driver. Sn74128 im looking for a line driver not ttl that is operational from 40c to 85c that can handle a 50 ohm load.
Sn74s140 dual 4input positivenand 50ohm line drivers. In audio, you dont have transmission lines unless you are the phone company and the 10x is a rule of thumb for minimum input impedance. Some part number from the same manufacture texas instruments, inc. Small resistors in series with the inverters driving the 50 ohm load are used to ensure that each inverter output has a similar output current. This is best to avoid, especially for weak drive devices. Proper termination of highspeed digital signals marvin. Sep 02, 2010 the transmitter provides a 50 ohm output. These devices contain four independent 2inputnor line drivers. The output stayed at high with some 80mhz ripple on it. April 28, 2005 torrance, ca pulse research lab prl announces the innovative prl444 four channel, high input impedance, 50 ohm ttl line driver. Ttl outputs long line drivers high speed digital communications system testing basic. The signal needs to be driven over a 50 ohm coaxial cable. Because of the broad frequency contents, a long transmission line can have significant impact on the shape of the pps signal due to dispersion and after delivery effects. Dual 4input positivenand gate 50 ohm line drivers dip14 specifications.
The simplest way to terminate a 100 ohm transmission line would be to place a resistor at the end or the cable figure 2 where r l is equal to. Standard 50 ohm ttl drivers 74s140 are only specd to produce a ttl high of 2. This leads to two problems energy loss, and changed waveform. I was told that copper at 1ghz has a dielectric constant of roughly 3. When in the on state, a line driver will supply vcc. Attach a 50 to 75 ohm pad and calibrate at the 75 ohm plane with a 75 ohm calibration kit with the system impedance set at 75 ohms. For testing with higher speeds i used a 80mhz oscillator output ttl cmos compatible but the circuit did not work. Mar 24, 2019 when you are connected to buffer a tester to outside tool, we should have an booster with enough bandwidth and power disposition ability. Jul 09, 2015 ttl level is driving into a 50 ohm coax load so i am assuming a 50 ohm source impedance which would yield approx. You could use a mosfet driver such as the tc4427 with a 47. Sn74128d datasheet ti sn74128, 50 ohm line drivers. Here are some of the ways i have driven 50 ohm coax cables with ttl. This compact, selfcontained buffer pod drives four ttl cmos signals into 50 ohm loads. Ideal applications would include bus drivers, memory drivers, address drivers, and system clock drivers.
Mostly ttl with a small collection of uprocessor and processor peripheral io and controllers. Please refer to the table below for a simple example of a line driver. When you are connected to buffer a tester to outside tool, we should have an booster with enough bandwidth and power disposition ability. Ttl level is driving into a 50 ohm coax load so i am assuming a 50 ohm source impedance which would yield approx. Ttl logic gates are available at mouser electronics.
Ti line drivers, alldatasheet, datasheet, datasheet search site for electronic components and. The sn54128 is characterized for operation over the full military temperature range of 55c to 125c. What ic drives digital data over coax with 50 ohm load. Why is the cable impedance of 50 ohm cable is considered to. Tie n outputs together to drive m receivers receiver rs2 36 ohm rs1 36 ohm receiver ro 7 ohm qa0 8701 tl1 zo 50 ohm td tl2 zo 50 ohm td ro 7 ohm q2 lvcmos driver. The 2n4401 can easily drive 150ma for a 3v ttl swing into 50 ohms, without excessively loading down the ttl source, and the 50 ohm termination resistor provides rapid pulldown at the end of the pulse. In terms of energy, it is considered a lossless 50 ohm transmission line but if it has 50 ohm impedance then how one can get same signal at the other as supplied at one end. For maximum power transfer and this is particularly important for phone systems and other transmission line situations, then yes a 50 ohm load is best on a 50 ohm cable if the source is 50 ohms.
Open collector an open collector is a sinking output. Currently, i use a philips nxp 74f3037 nand driver. Electronic engineering surplus digital logic integratedcircuits. Get the latest tutorials on sysadmin, linuxunix and open source topics via rssxml feed or weekly email newsletter. The standard termination of an lvcmos driver in a z o50 ohm transmission line environment is shown in figure 1. The sp232a is a line driver and receiver pair that meets the specifications of rs232 and v. So if your transmitter is designed for a 50 ohm impedance, you use a 50 ohm cable, and a 50 ohm antenna, then the majority of your transmitters energy will go into the antenna, and will be radiated into the air, with the waveform shape the transmitter intended. As such, i need a 05v railtorail line driver capable of high speed switching and sourcing currents of 100ma. For some products, newer alternatives may be available. Pi74alvtc family is designed for low voltage operation, vdd to 3. Low band receive antenna systems often require a lot of long coaxial cable runs to interconnect different rx antennas e. I was thinking about possibly using sn74lvc2t35 or 2 sn74lvc1g97 or sn74lvc2g2 with gates connected in parallel to yield higher drive current required to drive 50 ohm load.
Then, the impedance will be 50 ohms and reasonably independent of whether you are sending a logic 1 or 0. Some of the fastest line drivers deliberately use relatively slow edges, as the receive level settles faster that way due to the lack of overshoot and ringing. Ad8018 5 v, railtorail, highoutput current, xdsl line drive. Pps signals are usually generated as a ttl signal capable of driving a 1 kilohm load. All of these devices are 50 ohm but are higher speed devices. Line driver drives 4 ttlcmos signals into 50 ohm loads. The base emitter voltages of q1 and q2 cancel out, and so do those. Mcp661dmld, demo board uses the mcp661 in a very basic application for highspeed opamps, a 50 ohm line coax driver. Aeic727 is a quad differential line driver product for harsh environments in industrial control applications. Suggestions for how to drive a 50 ohm pcb trace with 5v.
Manufacturer logic function number of gates number of input lines. Ttl output to 50 ohm load ita a typical lvttl specification. Ttl outputs long line drivers high speed digital communications system testing basic lab tool 1 ppsirigb line driver hilo logic level generation features. Some sources use line drivers in order to be capable of driving 50 ohm transmission lines. The driver the driver is terminated with 50 ohm pull down to vttv ddo 2 at the receiver end.
Updated how to match a 50 ohm coax to 75 ohm coax, 35 ohm yagis, etc. High speed cmos chip to chip communication circuit stimulated by the demands of chip to chip communication, we further designed a differential 50 ohm line driver with a 60 mw power consumption plus a receiver. B rs422 ttl rs422 ttl circuits provide a constant 5 v signal level that is not dependent on the supply voltage. In search of a better line driver electronics forums. If it is absolutely necessary that you use a device with 50 ohm output impedance then the hsdio devices is the only option. The only part i know of that will drive 50 ohms to ground is the old 74s140 and it. Of course, if you decide to use 50 ohm coax to avoid this problem, then you get a similar mismatch at the antenna, 50. I was planning to use the termination with a 22 ohm series resistance at the cmos output as shown in the attached diagram. Sn7412n ti sn7412, triple 3input positivenand gates with open collector outputs.
The pi74fct540t and pi74fct5412541t provide similar driver. Resolved suggested logic buffer for driving ttl 50 ohm. I have a pulse generator circuit that produces sharp 5 15 ns ttl pulses and i would like to use it to trigger my 50 ohm device through a 12 sma coaxial cable that is either singly or doubly terminated. I would be surprised if the output of the waveform generator is actually a ttl output. The sy10el89sy10ep89 is a differential fanout gate specifically designed to drive coaxial cables. The filter input impedance is expected to be 50 ohms. Jameco sells ttl line driver circuit and more with a lifetime guarantee and same day shipping. The box i want to interface is a pocket cell driver that states in its specifications that the input level has to be 5v at 50 ohm, single ended i think.
Measuring 75 ohm devices on a 50 ohm test set is not as accurate as measuring on a 75 ohm test set. Using a mosfet gate driver as a highvoltage line driver. If the 6 volts into 1 meg is unacceptable, the 6 volt supply can be reduced to 5. Turn ttl output of logic ic into output capable of driving 50 ohm. Ideal xdsl line drive amplifier for usb, pcmcia, or. It is intended for distribution of highspeed clock and logic signals to multiple loads via long lines. Theres no need to convert the antenna over to 75 ohms. Dec 06, 2014 i would be surprised if the output of the waveform generator is actually a ttl output. Updated how to match a 50 ohm coax to 75 ohm coax, 35 ohm. Sn74s140 active this product has been released to the market and is available for purchase. Accepted by topic dataasheet vasilich ti does not warrant or represent. Ada43111 low cost, dual, high current output line driver. Coaxial cable driver microchip technology other online. Sn74 dual retriggerable monostable multivibrator with clear.
Using differential signals the output fully complies to the rs422 standard. Impedances of 50 75 ohms are also used, but have a disadvantage that the termination resistors would place a large load on the digital driver. Hi friends, i have a problem where oracle system cannot be access when the ttl expired in transit appears. Driving 5v ttl signal over 50 ohm coax all about circuits. Dual 4input positivenand gate 50 ohm line drivers dip14. I find myself paralleling line driver outputs all the time. I was thinking about possibly using sn74lvc2t35 or 2 sn74lvc1g97 or sn74lvc2g2 with gates connected in parallel to yield higher drive current required to drive.
Electronic surplus digital logic ttl cmos processor. These devices contain two independent 4input positivenand 50 ohm line drivers. If the output drive strength is as asymmetrical as the specification suggests, you would want to place a pullup resistor to increase the source capability. This device is pintopin compatible with popular industry standard pinouts. Oct 27, 2010 the author is the creator of nixcraft and a seasoned sysadmin, devops engineer, and a trainer for the linux operating systemunix shell scripting.
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